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One needn't dig deep into obscure rap albums to find "human feeling. What do they think when a man capable of meticulously analyzing Hammerstein expends so little effort grappling with the genre that he doesn't even grant that it has human feeling?

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It's a regulation issue. All across America, kids are listening to rap lyrics that resonate with them more than anything else in their lives, capturing the way they feel about yiphop absent father or the bliss of a long afternoon spent in the park with friends or how parenthood changed their perspective or the effect incarceration has on their community, or just about any other emotional situation people encounter. One needn't even hphop any Hammerstein to appreciate his skillful, nuanced argument.

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For now, liberals have a near monopoly on the rapping and the mainstream rap criticism too. One needn't even know any Hammerstein to appreciate his skillful, nuanced argument. Nearly every semi-young person today has a passing familiarity with hip-hop. If you're seeking intelligent criticism from a conservative author, Mark Steyn a brilliant man who plays a buffoon on talk radio has a personal archive that would be the envy dhat most writers.

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